This “Visuals” interview is with Palace Skateboards founder Lev Tanju. Read on to find out about the homegrown visuals he selected for us, and the reasons why they are important to him…
Words and interview by Jacob Sawyer. Lev Tanju out for Ice Cream in Rome
Lev Tanju is a national treasure, he founded Palace Skateboards back in 2009, an institution that has always championed London, and continued to prove the International appeal of a diverse squad of humans he believed in from the start. His blend of humour and irreverence are key to the success of the company but are counterbalanced by his desire to celebrate the skateboarding he loves, and everything he loves about skateboarding. Working together years ago meant that many hours were whiled away watching, and talking about our favourite videos. His infectious excitement about the videos, mags, or photos that have gripped him has always been able to light up a room, and as soon as this format was introduced we knew he would be the perfect candidate.
Lev started at an interesting time when all of our eyes were honed on what was happening on the other side of the Atlantic. Collectively we keenly awaited the next transmission of dope via VHS, and he quickly began absorbing the best media, some tastefully curated by friends made at Fairfield Halls, and later Southbank. This would lead to an early US pilgrimage and a life course where skateboarding was the North Star. When Lev joked recently in a product description that he nearly cried watching Rob Welsh do a nollie crooked grind when he visited Pier 7 for the first time, it goes some way to describing what an impact things made on him. It’s a true representation of the emotion certain things in skateboarding can stir in us. That’s why this article could have quite easily been dedicated to the importance of Girl, Chocolate, Alien, Aesthetics, and beyond, we’ve had those very conversations before.
Lev decided instead to go down a more personal route with his selection, choosing things that made a lasting impression on his young mind, that all happened in the UK, some right in front of him. He discusses a Jamie Bolland part from Alex Craig’s seminal scene video H’Min Bam which he describes as going against what a video part was somehow supposed to be. Then we dip from Glasgow back to London to talk about a timeless Ben Jobe clip filmed on hallowed ground. Lev then chose to speak about not one, but two photos of Nick Jensen shot at different points in his evolution as one of the best skateboarders to ever emerge from the city. We closed out the conversation by focusing on a Blueprint Rob Selley graphic he saw on his very first visit to Fairfield Halls. While those videos from the other side of the pond were being regularly rewound a new movement was at play that would shake up boardwalls countrywide, and he was lucky enough to see it happening firsthand. It was interesting to acknowledge the excitement of that time before going on to talk a little about some of the graphics he has happily had a hand in himself. We are pleased to bring you these insights from one of the best, someone with deep ties to the shop who remains a constant inspiration…
Jamie Bolland – H’MIn Bam by Alex Craig (2004)
Lots of people have already talked about many of the iconic parts. There are so many that inspired me, Kareem Campbell, Josh Kalis, Gino [Iannucci], a long list. I thought I’d use this opportunity to do something UK based. There have obviously been so many good parts but this one I feel is just a banging skate section, I’d never seen a part like it ever, it felt so independent, and raw. Jamie Bolland skates so differently to everyone, and the music is fucking amazing. You know when you see something you’d never seen before? When I saw this it was just mental. This gave me faith back in the day that you could make a skate section that was fun, and different. You didn’t need to be nollie hardflipping picnic tables to do something banging with a section.
The whole thing to me stood out, H’Min Bamis just a banging independent skate video. This Jamie Bolland section went against what a video part was somehow supposed to be. There’s no build up to a hammer at the end, it’s just someone cruising around, skating to good music. That’s what’s important to me. Some of The spots he’s skating ain’t even spots. He’s skating out of a tree stump bump in the floor, and wearing weird leather jackets. It’s just really good section that’s hilarious because the music is so weird, I’m not even sure what genre that is? Horse noises, German reggae, it doesn’t make sense.
“There’s no build up to a hammer at the end, it’s just someone cruising around, skating to good music. That’s what’s important to me”
I used to watch this loads before going out skating. We had this video, and we would have been watching it at the Brixton Palace, I think that’s before it was even called a Palace, that’s one of the earlier skate houses we all stayed at. We had everything, all the videos on VHS, that was the only way to watch things. This came out just around the time I started working at Slam. One other video that springs to mind from that time is the Aesthetics video Ryde or Die Vol.1, we would watch that a lot, I think Rob Welsh’s part in that is one of the best of all time. I didn’t really know what Aesthetics was when I was first working at Slam but took the video back to watch at the Brixton house. We had no idea what to expect before watching it, then it was just mental. H’Min Bam was the opposite end of the spectrum to that but had the same effect on us. The same vibe, what is this video? There was no Instagram, these videos were coming out without teasers. So you got this whole experience when you weren’t already immersed in what the skaters were about beforehand. Those two videos made a real impact, and also that Canadian video North 2: Port Moody Blues.
H’Min Bam was a proper Scottish video, and I love Scotland. There’s Bristo Square footage in there, that’s one of my favourite spots ever. Jamie’s kickflip there is so good, you can’t do a better kickflip than that, it’s impossible. There’s also a line in his part where he looks like Colin Kennedy, that always stood out to me. I thought it was suddenly Colin as a guest but it’s still him, that switch push. If your silhouette looks like Colin Kennedy you’re basically doing something right innit? Growing up Colin was one of my favourite skaters, so dope, and so Scottish. I actually thought his kickflip over a bar into a bank was in this video but it wasn’t, it’s in a Sidewalk video. Leo Sharp took a photo of that karate kickflip, another next level kickflip he did.
I got into Uncle John & Whitelock the band before I had seen this video. We had been to see them play at the Ice Palace with Headshoppe, so I had seen Jamie playing keyboard with the band, and had their CD. So I was already listening to their music then I watch this and find out he’s also a banging skater. Their song “MaryHill Vibe” is in the video too so it was a real combo. I’ve got an Uncle John & Whitelock tattoo actually. I’ve used their music in skate videos too. There were a few years where I didn’t stop skating, but for a couple of years I wasn’t really on watching all the videos which came out. Looking back at this video it was great inspiration at the time but it didn’t directly influence anything I was doing other than inspiring me to use Uncle John & Whitelock’s music. Glasgow has a special mojo, it’s culturally so fucking cool, everyone there is on some shit. I love Glasgow.
“This gave me faith back in the day that you could make a skate section that was fun, and different”
My favourite skaters are all characters. Watching skaters at that time, they all fell into a category. All skaters wore skate clothes, the ones I was into anyway. Jamie was something else, he looked like skating was his second love. He didn’t dress like a skater which was really cool to me, and it’s a scene video that has withstood the test of time. John Rattray’s stuff in the video is unbelievable too, he skates to a Kings Of Leon track, it’s so mersh but I reckon it’s quite deep. It’s the time period when he got on Zero. I never thought of him as being gnarly until he got on Zero, then it made sense. I knew he could do gnarly shit but I never thought he’d put a leather jacket on and lipslide a steep rail. He was a banging fit for Blueprint but fit equally as well on Zero, and his part works so well to that Kings Of Leon track. I can’t watch a Rattray section and get inspired to go and try something he did in it, I’m inspired by watching it but it’s the other end of the spectrum for me. I’m not thinking about doing a kickflip to fakie out the top of a quarter pipe but I can watch Jamie Bolland’s section and think about going to do a switch-front-board. I don’t reckon Jamie wasn’t getting paid to skate and he made that section out of passion, I love it, it’s sick. He has such a banging section, there are so many I like but I think this one is wicked, and I wanted to focus on the UK side of things.
Ben Jobe – First Broadcast (2001)
This is the perfect trick really, I’m sure he switch wheelies down the bank, he doesn’t touch his back wheels. It’s classic Ben Jobe where he’s just flowing like water, feeling everything. That bar out of the bank where it used to be is such a banging spot, not many people were skating it, definitely not this way. This is gnarly, such a short steep bank, and he’s going so fast I’m surprised he didn’t do it to flat. You would never see Ben do the same trick the same way twice, every trick was always different, he was feeling everything out. It’s the perfect skate clip, perfect trick, done banging. It’s one of those tricks where it’s super special like that [Josh] Kalis kickflip, where it would never look the same way again. I wonder if he’s even skating his own board half the time, any footage of him is so off the cuff, it comes out of nowhere. I love Ben Jobe, and his footage, he’s such a memorable Southbank local, the ultimate Southbank character. He’d be playing his flute, or doing handstands, then he’d jump on someone’s board and do a backside flip like that one, you know what I mean?
This is one of my favourite tricks ever filmed I think. It’s at Southbank, again it’s at night, it’s lit up by generators. It’s so iconic for that reason too, that time in skating is gone now, the whirring of the generator in the background. It’s different now, you can probably light something up with fucking batteries. Southbank footage with a generator is of a time, and Ben Jobe is one of my favourite Southbank locals of all time too. The way he does that backside flip, doesn’t touch his back wheels, it’s just so fluid. Everything about that clip speaks to me. You know what? I love the heelflip by Ollie Watson just before it too. Ben nollie backside flipped the seven, and did a 180 fakie nosegrind on the beam that same session too. The nollie backside flip is mad, it flips so weird, I love it.
I never saw the period of time where Ben Jobe was learning to skate. I just saw him jumping on someone else’s board and slide back tails on the banked wall where the telephone box used to be. I remember him backside flipping stairs easy, so much rhythm and fluidity to his skating. This backside flip is just one of those things that got filmed and should be in the Southbank museum, it’s what skateboarding means to me. He’s holding on to it, he has so much flow he rides away. I bet it took him about three minutes to do it too. Any footage captured of Ben is great but this is amazing. Randomly another amazing thing I saw at Southbank was over that bar into the bank. When Pete Eldridge came to London for the first time with J Strickland. He got to Southbank, rolled up to the bank going switch, and he did a switch 180 over the bar into the bank. He cleared it by so much, it was a belly button height switch 180. It was fucked up, I’ve never seen anything like it in my life. It was way bigger than a cone, so gnarly.
“There isn’t much existing footage of Ben Jobe, but I really think less is more sometimes…That backside flip is enough for him to have legendary status forever”
There isn’t much existing footage of Ben Jobe, but I really think less is more sometimes. As soon as you’ve filmed four sections, and everyone has seen all of the tricks you can do, there’s nothing left to the imagination anymore. That’s why I’ll go back to Richard Mulder, I always loved it how he’d have one or two tricks in a Chocolate video. He had the full sections in Mouse and that, but later on in The Chocolate Tour for instance he just has a few tricks, and I’m into that. You would want more but that would be enough. You can think now looking to the past that it would have been amazing to film a full Ben Jobe part, but he probably didn’t even have a phone back then. There’s a lot more that goes into capturing someone like that. I love that Ben has just a few tricks in that video, it’s enough for me. That backside flip is enough for him to have legendary status forever. I was lucky, I got to see him skate Southbank a lot back in the day. He wouldn’t try something for two hours, he’d just feel it out, then he’d do it. I’m not saying this is my favourite trick ever, but it’s one of them. I would say it’s my favourite ever trick filmed at Southbank.
I actually got to see Richard Mulder skate at Southbank too one time. It was when Nike SB first came out, everyone was skating in those black shoes with purple bits on that didn’t even look like skate shoes [URL]. He did a switch frontside 50-50 on the block, it was the best, I still think about it now all the time. That gave me faith, even now if I try a switch frontside 50-50 I think about that one he did that day. It was on the lower part of the old L-shaped ledge which is a minor but he did it so good. I’ve just got a new setup, I actually bought some black wheels from Slam online. I don’t know why I got black ones, mid-life crisis or whatever. I can’t wait to get out of work, and go skating. I’m going to try to do switch frontside 50-50s on that new block at Southbank, and I’m going to think about Richard Mulder basically. Spring’s coming, there’s nothing better than a nice sunny day at Southbank when everyone is sat on the block, couple of beers, play skate. It’s been going off down there lately, loads of people skating, loads of banging stuff going down.
Nick Jensen. Backside Smith Grind. PH: Oliver Barton (2001)
Growing up [Nick] Jensen made an impact not only on me, but everyone in the London scene. He was the first little kid who really skated good, before the Baker videos were out with little kids doing shit. I remember seeing him at Southbank before I knew him, I saw him do a nollie flip and thought fucking hell, how can that little kid do a nollie flip? Pretty soon after I began to skate at Southbank I met him, and we started skating together. I was so gassed to skate with Nick, and to watch him skate. Then this back smith photo came out. I don’t know what it is about it? He’s wearing Circa’s, he’s got a tiny board, I reckon it was one of those Blueprint lightbulb boards, he’s got Orion trucks. I don’t think I had seen anyone skate that ledge either, I knew the spot too. I had just never really seen anything like it. It’s such dope photo, everything about it is steez. He’s wearing dark garms, it’s shot at night, it has an Eastern Exposure feel to it. It’s so street, so London. I was into everything about it.
“This is the pinnacle of how good that trick can look”
Back smiths got rinsed, now it’s about who can ollie out higher, I don’t care about that shit. It was still a banging trick at this point in time, I suppose it was becoming trendy but it wasn’t like everybody could do a back smith. This looks like that photo of Mike Carroll doing a back smith that Mike Blabac shot with the blue sky, and the blue T-Shirt, it’s perfect. This photo made me want to get Orion trucks, it was one of them ones. “Orions yeah? Are they good?” I got them, they weren’t lol. When you’re that into something though, a good photo will do that to you, make you cop some dumb shit.
Look at his arms, and hands, such a sick photo. This was a special time for me, this is around the time of First Broadcast, that video was amazing, as was his footage. He was coming into his own, he was a bit bigger, he’s starting to nollie flip out of nosegrinds at Victoria Benches. This photo, this advert gives me Alien Workshop vibes, it has a mood, a feeling, it’s not just a digital photo. Think how shit you could make that trick look on that block. Shoot it from far away in the middle of the day or whatever. This is the pinnacle of how good that trick can look, it’s in London, it’s an iconic spot, I love that shit.
Nick Jensen. Frontside noseslide. PH: Sam Ashley (2004)
I wanted to add in this extra photo because I wanted to cement how banging Jensen is basically. Everyone knows that but this was taken a few years further on. When I first saw this I thought “what the fuck are you on mate?” You could face plant that bar so easy by hanging up on the bench. I’ve walked past this spot in Farringdon ten million times but never thought of doing anything else other than locking a bike up to it. It’s next level. It’s another example of him being ten steps ahead of everyone. This was in the [Anthony] Pappalardo era when we all loved off Pappalardo, Nick and I would skate together all the time. I would skate with him at Southbank or whatever but he was always a professional, he was always on his own shit. He would never say that he was out there doing anything, and then these photos would keep coming out of him doing banging shit on stuff nobody could step to.
This is cover material, it was so gnarly when I first saw it. Frontside noseslides are one of the best tricks in the world 100%, I always loved seeing them whether it was Mark Baines or Richard Mulder, and It is true that you can get an easy photo doing that trick but this isn’t one of them. Noselides on a block are probably the easiest trick but look at Rob Welsh’s noseslides, it proves it’s all about how you do it. With this Nick had to ollie up onto that bench first, it’s short. I could not ollie up onto that bench and ollie off, couldn’t do it, it’s too quick. Front board wouldn’t be as good although it would be gnarly, but seeing this front nose represented another step ahead. I just love night photos as well.
“He would never say that he was out there doing anything, and then these photos would keep coming out of him doing banging shit on stuff nobody could step to”
Nick said that this trick was a mission to do which makes me feel even better about picking it. What he did had to be so quick, so fast. It’s a banging skate photo and it looks like it would have been a mission too. If I was tasked with either of these tricks and it was a life or death situation I’d be dead, I just couldn’t do it. They’re not how I skate, and that makes them all the more incredible to me, when you can’t imagine how the fuck someone did something. No matter how well you filmed either of these tricks on camera the photos are always going to be better, they’re so much more mysterious, they offer up how he did it. They’re amazing pieces of documentary, someone doing something on two weird things that were never meant to be skated, and making it look beautiful. Two tricks that are impossible for me to fathom doing. Obviously there are a million skate photos that I love of so many different people but these are two that really inspired me.
Lev and Nick sat on the southbank seven PH: James Edson
I’m not sure what the best thing I ever saw Nick do in the flesh would be, he was always quite private. I do remember chatting to him when he was pranging out about having to switch flip the London Bridge stairs, that’s quite funny. He was pranging out the night before, I just remember thinking you don’t actually have to do this. When he was little it was great watching him skate at Playstation definitely, he’d drop in on the mini ramp and do frontside nollie heelflip tail stalls, it was mental that he could do little weird things like that. But Victoria Benches was the one, I remember seeing him roll up and do a nosegrind-nollie flip without even thinking about it, the same way someone would do a slappy noseslide on a kerb messing around. It was like a computer game, so weird the way he did it too, a balancey nosewheelie technique but there was so much rhythm in the way he did it.
“Nick was a very thoughtful skater, he planned the spots, he planned the tricks he was going to do, then how he was skating all came out in the footage”
Nick was a very thoughtful skater, he planned the spots, he planned the tricks he was going to do, then how he was skating all came out in the footage. You know how Chewy [Cannon] skates, he’s constantly buzzing around, Jensen was more secretive then the footage would come out and you were blown away. I remember him doing huge frontside nollie kickflips on flat, I don’t even like that trick but I love how he does it. He also would always do massive frontside nollies which inspired me to do that trick. He could nollie noseslide massive things too, this little skinny guy who was able to pop so big. I watched him film some ridiculous lines at Shell Centre while filming for First Broadcast. Skating with certain people definitely affects how you skate, you know he was growing up with Toby [Shuall], and that made him learn his tricks, nollie noseslides, switch front tails, frontside nollie switch crooks, there are similarities. I saw him do the kickflip back smith at Victoria Benches too, which was mental but at the same time you wouldn’t see him do loads of kickflips on flat. It’s good to talk about Nick in here, he deserves it.
Blueprint Rob Selley Deck. Graphic by Dan Magee (1998)
I never had one of these boards but when I got to Fairfields for the first time everyone was skating this board, either this one or the Mark Baines coffee board. I never had either but the graphic has stuck in my brain. I remember [Dan] Callow skating one, and doing switch frontside flips down the stairs. This was before I knew anybody too, I was from Croydon so I went to Fairfields because I heard that people skated there. That [Rob] Selley board, I don’t know why but it seemed so iconic. Everyone was skating it down there, and then [Nick] Jensen had that advert skating it where he’s doing a nosegrind at Paternoster Square on one of the wooden benches. That board was 7” wide which is gnarly, so banging! Shout out to Rob Selley, his part in Mixed Media is so sick, and the part in Anthems where he’s skating to that Camp Lo “Luchini” track. He was a different level of dope, Tom Penny-ish, he didn’t feel bare American to me, it just felt like he was on his own thing. Such a Don basically, I saw everyone skating that board and it just resonated with me.
I remember seeing the advert for it in the Blueprint catalogue. The board has the 01908 Milton Keynes area code on it. The board itself is beautiful man, it’s got weird baby blue coming through it. I love cream, and I love baby blue which is one reason for liking it. I hadn’t ever really looked at it too deeply until now but it’s my kind of board, I love how it’s laid out, how it looks. I think a lot of it has to do with the people I saw skating it at the time too. Charlie [Young] was at Fairfields when I went there for the very first time as a little kid, and we’ve been best mates for twenty years or something now. Everyone was running one of those two boards, and this one just always stood out for me.
It was an English board I always wanted but never got. It wasn’t pretending to be anything, or copying anything, it was a new thing. That graphic is proper industrial looking, it felt like something new. That layout is weird too, I’d never layout a board like that if I was doing a graphic, it’s amazing. I would love to know what Dan [Magee]’s inspiration behind doing that board was or if he just did it. It’s got a weird drop shadow, telephone numbers, I always thought it was a postcode which is interesting. I never thought at that time that anything English could be so dope. Then I watched his skate sections and it all made sense. Wearing Adidas, doing nollie heelflips down the three at Fairfields, switch frontside heelflipping up them.
“I never thought at that time that anything English could be so dope. Then I watched his skate sections and it all made sense”
Fairfields at that time was such an amazing place, another Southbank in London with so many people going off, and skating so good. Just a banging scene where everyone was so good at skating. It was mental to witness when I first went there. I was wearing camouflage DC Clockers and pushing mongo, I wanted to know what everyone was doing, what they were skating. I didn’t even know the difference between nollie and fakie at the time, that’s how new I was to skating. Meanwhile [Dan] Callow was switch frontside flipping the stairs at the end. I’ve still never done one of them in my whole life. Everyone was skating kicker ramps too, and breaking boards because they were all skating twiglets.
I got to see [Rob] Selley skate there, [Paul] Shier obviously, [Matt] Pritchard even. There was a main block everyone skated, next to the one Shier did the nollie noseblunt slide inside. People had wedged a couple of concrete slabs inside the planter to level it up like a block. I remember Pritchard skating up and just nose-wheelieing through it. That was rugged on the inside, fine for a slide or a grind but that nosewheelie was asking for it, and he just charged it. Over the years I got to see some amazing people skate there like when Cairo Foster came over, I remember him skating the high ledges. I saw Channon [King] skating there one morning wearing those weird Chany Jeanguenin Converse. I was there weekends, and bunking off school but only went there regularly for a couple of years max before I started going to Southbank all the time. I saw [Paull] Shier film so many things there for the video, I was there when he did that nollie noseblunt slide inside, he did that so quick as well, I even remember him being surprised at how quick he did it.
It was cool to see stuff go down, then to be at the premiere and watch something you remember seeing happen. I had that feeling more with the Landscape Portraits video because I was way more in the scene. I was there watching Toby film a bunch of shit, and it’s cool watching it come out in the video, but it also made it special when you hadn’t seen stuff, that build up of expectation. I hadn’t seen much of [Olly] Todd’s footage and his section in that video was unbelievable, perfect, so much variety, and cool shit. That’s what I was kind of saying about Jensen, when he was off on his filming missions in the city at night. I was partying or zooted while he was manicuring his skate sections so that when you watched it you though “what the fuck!”
A handful of Lev’s graphic favourites from the palace skateboards archives
As far as graphics I have had a hand in that are memorable for whatever reason, I like the early ones where I just had a digital camera, and was taking photos of things and photoshopping them. Toddy’s first board with the weird statue on it, I quite liked making that one. I love the first ever boards with Joey [Pressey]’s dog Stella on them. Then I really love the Palace Josh Kalis “Palis” one. That was one of my favourite boards ever to skate, so to be able to make that a reality again. I asked him of course and he was fine with it, and I asked Don Pendleton to do it which was good. It meant I could just go back to my youth, and skate my favourite graphic again. It’s quite selfish really but that really meant a lot to me. We recently did two Blueprint ones, I’ve been skating one of those, and I love it, I’ve been skating the [Danny] Brady one. I enjoy revisiting old boards. I’ve got one I’ve just set up that’s not out for three months. I’ve done a [Guy] Mariano one, the graphic with the football on it, it says “Paliano”. It’s so sick, I’m so gassed, it feels like I’m skating a Girl board from the late 90s but it’s my shape, my version.
“It meant I could just go back to my youth, and skate my favourite graphic again. It’s quite selfish really but that really meant a lot to me”
I really like riffing on graphics, this makes me want to do a [Rob] Selley one now, it’s fun innit? Just fun, it’s a nod to the ones that I like. That “Palaesthetics” Rob Welsh board was another good one. I had the original one when it came out, it was probably about 7.3” wide, I was skating Oxford Street benches and just broke the nose doing an ollie on the flat messing around. It was good to see that board again. I like the ones that pay homage, but I like all of Ben Sainsbury’s graphics too to be honest, and love every board Will Bankhead has ever done. I like all of them really, one of my passions is making skateboards. The ones I like the most are generally ones I want to skate, big flat colours, I love plain looking boards. That Rob Welsh one is just a “W” on a green board, the Kalis one was plain too. I miss dipped boards now, those white dipped Alien boards. At the time it was annoying but now I miss it, might have to bring that back. That “Nocturnal” series Alien did was deep, that time of Alien Workshop is my favourite time in skating really aesthetically. Their videos, the boards, working in Slam and skating the best boards, such a great time in my life. Shout out to Jake, Gareth, Toby, Massey (RIP), Pizzer, Seth, Mags, Robbleyard, Grifter, Toddy, pound coins, and the Bagel Factory.
Nollie Flip for 2024. Lev signs off by revisiting an old favourite at a spot that means the most
We want to thank Lev for this one, it was great to connect and talk about some halcyon days. Thanks to Sam Ashley for sending over the photo of Nick Jensen he shot two decades ago, and thanks to Dan Magee for sending us a photo of the Rob Selley board he designed even longer ago.
Thanks to James Edson for digging in the archives for the Southbank shot. Thanks also to Neil Macdonald (Science Vs Life) for the Oliver Barton shot Nick Jensen Blueprint ad scan, and the Leo Sharp shot Rob Selley Blueprint catalogue scan.
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